How To Download Mac Files On A PC

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MacWindows.com - great site for integrating Macs and PeeCees.  
hfsutils allows PeeCee's to read mac 1.4 meg floppies (NOT 800k) Download apps on a PeeCee and read them on a Mac.
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Yes, on the same wire, Mac's and Pc's can coexist perfectly.

As for software , you have the following choices:

And now my favorites ( free software):

Install samba on the linux server. That way it can serve files and printers to Windows machines, with no addicional softare needed on the Pc side. Install netatalk on the linux, it provides appletalk file and print services to the Macs, with no additional software needed on the Mac side. If you share the same directories, and define the extensions/ resource info for the data files you have you can share and move the files from any platform at will.

Define the printers so that on the Mac you can print to a virtual Laser with Postscript, that really is one cheap Laser or InkJet without Postscript. On the Linux you have Ghostscript, that makes the translation for you, every time you print. Just print to Laserwriter 8 and the files come out on a cheap Laserjet or DeskJet.


Downloading Mac software on a PC.


RAWRITE - actually part of Slackware Linux, but it can be used here too. It's free and a very small download (about 36K). (If RAWRITE won't work or gives you problems, try WinImage.)

System 6.0.8 bootdisk image (900K). If your Mac needs System 7 or higher, get the 7.5 Network Access Disk and use that to put a very basic OS on the Mac.

Aladdin Stuffit Expander for Windows - PC Version.

Once you have everything, install Stuffit Expander, unstuff the disk image to a new folder on your hard disk, and name the folder something short, like "Mac." Copy the RAWRITE program into this same folder. Rename the image file to image.img. Start your MS-DOS Prompt and type the following:

 

Type c: (or whatever your drive letter with the Mac OS image file is)

RaWrite 1.3 - Write disk file to raw floppy diskette

Enter source file name:


Just a quick note, I don't know how many people are aware of the fact that you can make Mac system disks using a PC. Download the program 'Winimage' from Tucows or wherever and then use it to write the floppy images of 6.0.8 or 7.X available from Apple.

I've tried it with 6.0.8 and it finally let me boot my portable, and the system 7.5 also seems to work fine. Almost makes up for the iMac not having a floppy drive.


 

Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 20:55:34 +0000

From: Jay Wiese <jaywiese@freewwweb.com>

Subject: Re: Advise please - catch 22

 

> 1. I need software to get the Classic on the net - the PeeCee

> is the only online machine I have. Can I down mac software via the

> PeeCee?

 

Sure. I did that very thing with a win95 machine to get this macine (Classic II) online.

> What do I need to to do that? What are my best options?

I'm assuming that the Classic can read/write high-density floppies (1.4 meg), so the first thing you need is a way to read PC disks. System 7.5 includes a control panel called "PC Exchange" that allows the Mac to read PC floppies as if they were native Macintosh disks (more or less). System 7.0 and 7.1 (and, I think system 6) include a utility called "Apple File Exchange" which does the same thing as PC Exchange, albiet less elegantly. If for some reason you can't find either of these pieces of software, there is a widely available shareware utility for Windows 95 called "Transmac" that will let you read/write Mac disks on the PC.

Next, you need to make sure you download only files with the extension *.hqx (Binhex). Binhex-ing is a way of converting Mac files to ASCII format so thay can easily be moved using non-Mac platforms. Therefore, you need to have a utility installed on your Mac that can translate binhex-ed files. I use both BinHqx and Stuffit Lite 3.6. Of course, you will need to find your un-binhex-ing utility in a format your Mac can already read. I got mine from the local Macintosh user's group for free.

Incidentally, I have had trouble using Netscape (my browser of choice) to download Mac files, even binhex-ed ones. The quickest solution was to use Internet Explorer for this purpose (Microsoft, yuk!)

Finally, almost all Mac files available online have been compressed using the Stuffit format. Get Stuffit Expander to be able to decompress downloaded files. The program itself is self-extracting, so you don't need any software to uncompress it, for obvious reasons.

 

So, the basic procedure is:

1. download *.hqx to desktop using Internet Explorer

2. copy the file to a PC formatted floppy and read it on the Mac using

either PC Exchange or Apple File Exchange

 

OR

 

2. copy the file to a Mac disk using Transmac and read it on the Mac as

you would any Mac disk

3. copy the file from the floppy to the Mac hard drive

4. un-binhex it

5. unstuff it

 

Hope this helps,

Jay Wiese,

Orlando, Florida


Message Number: 4

Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:20:35 -0500 (EST)

From: Kenneth Smith <caionnea@cyberspace.org>

Subject: Re: Interesting Network Dilemma

 

Since I often use a pc at work and also download mac files and save them on a Novell Netware server I have likewise encountered this problem, but there is a simple fix. You can use ResEdit to edit the resource fork and restore the file type and creator to its proper designation for the particuar files in question, but an even simpler fix is to download

*FileTyper* from <http://www.macdownload.com> or Cnet's download.com. This simple drag-n-drop program will allow you to directly edit this portion of the resource fork and restore the file to functionality. You will need to have a good file of the same type that you are trying to fix so that you can tell what the file type and creator codes are, write them down, then drop the file that needs fixing on FileTyper and input the type and creator and click the change button. The file's icon you are accustomed to seeing should appear before your very eyes.

 

To reiterate:

1) Download FileTyper;

2) Drag and drop a good copy of the same type of file onto FileTyper;

3) Write down the type and creator codes of this file;

4) Drag and drop the broken file onto FileTyper;

5) Input the respective type and creator codes;

6) Click the change button.

 

You can even select several files of the same type, drag and drop them all onto FileTyper, type in the type and creator codes and click on "change all" and all files at once will be changed. FileTyper is a very useful program for restoring files whose resource forks get garbled by pcs.


Timhiggins.com has some great info on sharing internet connections and networking of all kinds.
Three Macs and a Printer - lots of networking info for Macs and PC's
Make a Mac boot disc on a PC - previously impossible
PC Modem On A Mac?
Using PC Memory In Macs
Networking Mac to Mac or PC to Mac with two modems
MacBochs - Run Windows and DOS on your 68k Mac.
vMac -
Emulating a Mac Plus on a PowerMac or Windoze Machine

 

The corruption problem appears only because you're downloading mac files on a PC, not because you're moving then on a PC Floppy. If you have to use a PC to download, never use http downloading if possible. Always prefer ftp. If not possible, right click on the link on your PC Browser and "save as source" the file you're downloading, or use Getright or Go!Zilla. Sometimes the downloaded file is clean, sometimes not. Because PC can't read the ressource fork of mac files, files storing important stuff in the ressource fork (like some self installers) cannot be downloaded on a PC without beeing corrupted, whereas .sit or .hqx files are usually OK (even .img files).


from Gavin.Haines

I have an iMac and a 4 meg Classic. I transfer files between the two machines using Fetch. On the iMac, upload the file. On the Classic Download it.

Another way is to email files to yourself as attachments using Eudora Lite. The Fetch method has the advantage that the file can be left at your ISP as a backup.

 

If you have a 030 68k Mac with a large enough HD, another easy way is to install Cyberdog which binhexes files automatically. To transfer a file from one machine to the other, all you have got to do is create a new folder, put the file into it, and drag it to the email window and click on send. Then on the other machine, just drag the enclosure to the DeskTop.

 

OpenDOC FAT install (Macbinary)

 

http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/OpenDoc/OpenDoc_1.2.1.img.bin

OpenDOC FAT install (Bin hex)

ftp://ftphqx.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/OpenDoc/OpenDoc_1.2.1.img.hqx

Old version of OpenDoc:

ftp://ftp.bingo-ev.de:21/pub/software/mac/tools/opendoc12.hqx

 

Cyberdog 68k Mac install:

ftp://ftp.bingo-ev.de:21/pub/software/mac/internet/cyberdog20-68k.hqx

Cyberdog PPC Mac install:

ftp://ftp.bingo-ev.de:21/pub/software/mac/internet/cyberdog20-ppc.hqx

Y2K 68k and PPC

http://www.newsreaders.com/mac/CdY2kPatch.sit.bin

 

lso of interest (PPC only)

ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple.Support.Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US/Macintosh/System/Other_System/ADD-IAD_1.0.2.img.hqx

PPC, but may freeze you:

http://waves.apple.com/people/jav/download/NBExportServicePPC.sea.hqx

 

PPC or 68k

http://web.cyberdream.net/cyberdog/files/openfileservice_101.hqx

http://www.access1.net/searchitects/public.htm/OpenDoc-Cyberdog-DataDetectors/OpenFileService_Folder.sit

 

Of Interest, but may be deceased:

 

http://cgi.linkclub.or.jp/~bombo/bin/BookmarkMaker035b3.sit.hqx

http://opendoc.fma.com/traceroute.hqx

http://www.ragnarokpress.com/scriptorium/webfonts.sit.bin

http://cgi.linkclub.or.jp/~bombo/bin/odoc2std005.sit.hqx

ftp://ftp1.mindvision.com/pub/mac/MindExpander_1.0.hqx

http://www.Hutchings-Software.com/_download/Rapid-I.hqx

 

Other points.: Cyberdog is a bit slow to launch on a 68k Mac, so launch it before connecting to the Internet. You can run it on an 8 meg machine. It is all right with RAM doubler. If you are game, there is an older crashy version of Cyberdog still available for download. I think there is no advantage memory wise in getting the older version. Cyberdog 2.0 is the version to get, PPC or 68k. If you have limited memory on a 68k Mac, it is possible, I have been told, to run Cyberdog without OpenDoc. I have never tried it, and have no idea how you might do it. If you install the Dog on an iMac, you need to hook the PPC version of "Memory Manager" extension of the the OpenDoc installer using Tome Viewer.

 ftp://ftp.macresource.com/tomeviewer-13d3.sit

 The reason for this is is that the OpenDoc installer has not been updated for the iMac, and it installs the 68k version. 68k Macs with a PPC upgrade card need the 68k version of Memory Manager.

 

 


I'll write a page on exactly how to do this with screenshots etc. if somebody will host it for me.

 

Download

ftp://ftphqx.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/EnglishNorth_American/Macintosh/System/Older_System/System_6.0.x/SSW_6.0.8-1.4MB_Disk1of2.sea.hqx

 

Download the PC version of stuffit expander from www.aladdinsys.com

 Unstuff and un "sea" the system files to a new folder on your hard disk

 Download Winimage from www.winimage.com

 Open winimage

 

File-> Open->

 

Point it at the system disk image file that you unstuffed. Winimage doesn't know about Mac image files so the file list remains blank. The label box should read MAC:System. Put in a 1.44MB floppy that is free from errors

 

Disk-> Write

 

When it has finished, remove the disk and try booting your mac from it. The disk contains Apple HD SC Setup so that you can format your internal disk. Drag the contents of the floppy into the freshly formatted hard disk and open, the close the system folder.

 

Special -> Restart

 

The disk should eject and hopefully, the machine should boot from the internal HDD. The last bit is the only bit I haven't actually tested so somebody might want to point out any errors.

 


1.1.6 - How can I get an OS on a Mac using only my PC?

from "the pickle's Low-End Mac FAQ"

It's reasonably common that someone gets an old used Mac and it has no operating system on it. Often, these people don't have anything other than a PC to access the Internet. As long as your Mac is an SE FDHD or Mac IIx or higher, you can use these directions compiled by Alex Harrington (aka "fastkeys") to get that Mac up and running. Due to irreconcilable physical differences in the floppy drives of PCs and Macs, a Mac 128, 512, Plus, original SE, or un-upgraded II cannot use this procedure.

You'll need your PC (running Win 9x or NT), some error-free 1.4MB floppies, and a good deal of patience. Download the following:

Once you have everything, install Stuffit Expander, unstuff the disk image to a new folder on your hard disk, and name the folder something short, like "Mac." Copy the RAWRITE program into this same folder. Rename the image file to image.img. Start your MS-DOS Prompt and type the following:

RaWrite 1.3 - Write disk file to raw floppy diskette

Enter source file name:

 


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